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	<title>Comments on: The Master Cleanse experiment</title>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://tekniklr.com/wpblog/2010/03/14/the-master-cleanse-experiment/#comment-6771</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 04:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog about the Cleanse.  I&#039;m doing it now (on day 4) and feeling tired and sluggish and sleeping a LOT during the day as I get so tired that I feel the need to lay down and rest.  Mostly I miss chewing, and savory, salty crunchy things.  But whenever I think of giving in and eating, I think of all the junk still inside me that needs to be flushed out, and how good I&#039;ll feel when it&#039;s over!  Npot sure I can make it the full 10 day minimum, but I&#039;ll try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog about the Cleanse.  I&#8217;m doing it now (on day 4) and feeling tired and sluggish and sleeping a LOT during the day as I get so tired that I feel the need to lay down and rest.  Mostly I miss chewing, and savory, salty crunchy things.  But whenever I think of giving in and eating, I think of all the junk still inside me that needs to be flushed out, and how good I&#8217;ll feel when it&#8217;s over!  Npot sure I can make it the full 10 day minimum, but I&#8217;ll try.</p>
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		<title>By: Teri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really know if the cleanse qualifies as a starvation diet... by my calculations, I was consuming at least several hundred calories a day just from the maple syrup! I guess a related question would be how much of &#039;starvation&#039; involves calorie absorption, how much involves nutrient deficiency, and how much involves the digestive system being fully utilized.

That&#039;s an interesting insight about the allergies! Thanks! I figured science would have discovered an easy cure to allergies like this by now, if it was permanent :)

I don&#039;t believe I lost any muscle mass- as I said I was trying to walk around more, and it didn&#039;t seem to be getting more difficult as the cleanse progressed. Also, during my cleanse I continued doing yoga, and even progressed a bit (to full backward bends), and I don&#039;t know if I would have been able to manage that with significant muscle loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really know if the cleanse qualifies as a starvation diet&#8230; by my calculations, I was consuming at least several hundred calories a day just from the maple syrup! I guess a related question would be how much of &#8216;starvation&#8217; involves calorie absorption, how much involves nutrient deficiency, and how much involves the digestive system being fully utilized.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting insight about the allergies! Thanks! I figured science would have discovered an easy cure to allergies like this by now, if it was permanent :)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe I lost any muscle mass- as I said I was trying to walk around more, and it didn&#8217;t seem to be getting more difficult as the cleanse progressed. Also, during my cleanse I continued doing yoga, and even progressed a bit (to full backward bends), and I don&#8217;t know if I would have been able to manage that with significant muscle loss.</p>
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		<title>By: beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this. I was wondering why you were doing it and kept meaning to ask. 

I wonder if the allergy claims might be related to immune system suppression during starvation. Here is one paper on the subject (note that for them, &quot;long term&quot; starvation is past 3 days): http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110001116170/en ... presumably it&#039;s temporary.

My biggest concern about the weight loss would be loss of muscle mass, especially since the lemonade contains no protein. Do you think you&#039;ve lost strength/muscle? This would also be also counter to the usual advice of gaining muscle to help with long-term weight loss goals (muscle requires more calories to maintain and gaining muscle is usually associated with losing fat). Also, I&#039;ve heard (but do not have a cite to back up) the idea that if you lose muscle mass, you are more likely to gain back fat. 

I know it&#039;s not the same thing, but you may find this study interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment discussed with more info here: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-weve-came-to-believe-that.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this. I was wondering why you were doing it and kept meaning to ask. </p>
<p>I wonder if the allergy claims might be related to immune system suppression during starvation. Here is one paper on the subject (note that for them, &#8220;long term&#8221; starvation is past 3 days): <a href="http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110001116170/en" rel="nofollow">http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110001116170/en</a> &#8230; presumably it&#8217;s temporary.</p>
<p>My biggest concern about the weight loss would be loss of muscle mass, especially since the lemonade contains no protein. Do you think you&#8217;ve lost strength/muscle? This would also be also counter to the usual advice of gaining muscle to help with long-term weight loss goals (muscle requires more calories to maintain and gaining muscle is usually associated with losing fat). Also, I&#8217;ve heard (but do not have a cite to back up) the idea that if you lose muscle mass, you are more likely to gain back fat. </p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s not the same thing, but you may find this study interesting: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment</a> discussed with more info here: <a href="http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-weve-came-to-believe-that.html" rel="nofollow">http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-weve-came-to-believe-that.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Teri</title>
		<link>http://tekniklr.com/wpblog/2010/03/14/the-master-cleanse-experiment/#comment-5962</link>
		<dc:creator>Teri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you&#039;ve found it useful! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve found it useful! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well informative! Way to go, Teri! You&#039;ve got a great willpower. I was going nuts when I couldn&#039;t taste anything so I don&#039;t have much confidence in myself succeeding in this. I love it when people share their experiences like this, and I myself have done it only with things that are psychoactive rather than biologically beneficial. I think it&#039;d be a great idea to compile people&#039;s experiments like these into a book. I&#039;d certainly buy it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well informative! Way to go, Teri! You&#8217;ve got a great willpower. I was going nuts when I couldn&#8217;t taste anything so I don&#8217;t have much confidence in myself succeeding in this. I love it when people share their experiences like this, and I myself have done it only with things that are psychoactive rather than biologically beneficial. I think it&#8217;d be a great idea to compile people&#8217;s experiments like these into a book. I&#8217;d certainly buy it!</p>
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