Intentional Action and Asperger’s…

…or “Pity me, for I am a geek and have this cool form of autism that explains why I’m so very very unpopular!”. Anyway…

Saw this article on Boing Boing today…

How do we think about the intentional nature of actions? And how do people with an impaired mindreading capacity think about it?

Consider the following probes:

The Free-Cup Case
Joe was feeling quite dehydrated, so he stopped by the local smoothie shop to buy the largest sized drink available. Before ordering, the cashier told him that if he bought a Mega-Sized Smoothie he would get it in a special commemorative cup. Joe replied, ‘I don’t care about a commemorative cup, I just want the biggest smoothie you have.’ Sure enough, Joe received the Mega-Sized Smoothie in a commemorative cup. Did Joe intentionally obtain the commemorative cup?

The Extra-Dollar Case
Joe was feeling quite dehydrated, so he stopped by the local smoothie shop to buy the largest sized drink available. Before ordering, the cashier told him that the Mega-Sized Smoothies were now one dollar more than they used to be. Joe replied, ‘I don’t care if I have to pay one dollar more, I just want the biggest smoothie you have.’ Sure enough, Joe received the Mega-Sized Smoothie and paid one dollar more for it. Did Joe intentionally pay one dollar more?

You surely think that paying an extra dollar was intentional, while getting the commemorative cup was not. So do most people (Machery, 2008).

But Tiziana Zalla and I have found that if you had Asperger Syndrome, a mild form of autism, your judgments would be very different: You would judge that paying an extra-dollar was not intentional, just like getting the commemorative cup (Zalla and Machery ms).

Why is that? Why do people with Asperger Syndrome understand intentional actions differently from people without this syndrome?

Skipping past the “impaired mindreading capacity” at the top (I wasn’t aware I had ANY mindreading capacity) my judgments of those situations imply that I have Asperger’s.

Let the record show that I do not believe that I have Asperger Syndrome. I have thought about it in the past, but as others have said, it seems that most geeks use it as a convenient excuse for their social awkwardness, when really, they are just socially awkward. Unless a medical professional diagnoses me with something, I am not going to claim I have it.

I just think I’m rather socially awkward because sometimes I’d rather play WoW than go to a party, and that I’m pretty frivolous with money. And I’d prefer to think of it as a personal choice rather than some sort of condition. Personal accountability, and all, y’know.

Of course, y’know that test I blogged years ago? I took it again:

Your Aspie score: 124 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 88 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

Aspie results graph

So, who knows? Maybe I do have Asperger’s! But even if I do, so what?

5 Responses to Intentional Action and Asperger’s…

  1. Derrick says:

    Oh, and I must also mention that the beauty of potentially having any mental condition from birth isn’t so bad for me, the individual since it just seems normal and has not placed any stigma on my mental state. I’m used to how I am and even though I may not like myself sometimes, fuck it. I go back and forth between the medication debate as I’d rather not be a slave to mind altering chemicals outside of recreational ones that are an at will basis rather than strict scheduling to maintain a “Normal” mindset. At the same time though I can’t help but think maybe due to having been on a slew of medications throughout my childhood and adolescence, as well as just how distinctively odd people have observed me as that maybe I could make more progress with less episodic periods if I get a decent diagnosis and treatment. IDFK I’m rambling and I need to be in bed if I’m going to do anything progressive later today. And my damn gravatar isn’t showing up. No biggie, but it’s a nuissance. I’ve given up trying to properly spell that annoying fucking word.

  2. Teri says:

    Asperger’s is a form of autism, and thus isn’t an illness. It’s more of a quality, like left-handedness.

    I don’t believe in medicating kids- I think it changes the way the brain develops with age and causes probable permanent differences.

    And are you using the same email address you normally use? Gravatars are determined by email.

  3. Derrick says:

    Indeed; point taken. And even if it is present in me so what? That’d make me no different tomorrow than I am today or was yesterday. Huzzah! And I agree with the stance on medicating kids, as I for one was subject to it pretty much in order to shut me up. That was one of many reasons why I was very very happy to go into foster care when I was 15. People there actually gave a damn enough to interact and try to help instead of feel obligated to do so by law; or even worse just ground me to lay in bed for the entire summer (’97) so there’s no worry of me causing chaos. It makes me wonder about the serial killers that grew up all normal and tra-la-la compared to rockstars like GG Allin, Marilyn Manson and such who had some extreme shit happen to them which helped result in who/what they became. And I have my gravatar activated for both of my main email accounts, and checked upon it earlier just to be sure. The main one I use for here is a gmail account although you will occasionally (especially earlier) find my aol account. But both are registered and use the same icon. ‘Tis funky.

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